Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Orthodox View of Second Coming

I just got done reading one of those Conciliar Press booklets on The Nation of Israel in Prophechy by Fr. Peter Gillquist while getting the little one down to sleep. I've always had some stinking suspicions regarding this issue and all the different views I've been taught about it through mainline modern Christianity. I have heard so many different things, that I wasn't really sure what I thought about Christ's return and what Israel had to do with it. It just kind of irked me when Isreal was sending bombs to Lebanon killing innocent people over a plot of land and my Evangelical friends were practically blind to the fact that some of those innocents were Christians, as if killing innocent non-Christians wasn't bad enought.

Surrounded by these zionist views, one would almost sense that every time something catastrophic happened some where on earth, Evangelicals are rubbing their hands together in anticipation waiting for Jesus to beem them up. They just know this is bringing them one step closer to the rapture, and tribulation where the unsaved would experience hell on earth. And for God's sake, protect the nation of Israel! I honestly never got this. Even in the thick of it, I wasn't sure what I thought would happen if the Jew's were to lose this land? Fr. Gillquist writes, "Ulitmately Darby's (first teacher of modern alteration of understaning of the return of Christ) followers came to believe that before the secret coming of the Lord occurs, before the "rapture," the remnant people of Israel must return to the Holy Land. A huge number of today's evangelical and charismatic Protestant Christians have bought into this innovative speculation."

Learning about the Orthodox teaching of this issue, has once again, made me love Orthodoxy even more. But doesn't it just make sense that the Christian church is the people of God? We have a new Covenant. So much of what I accepted as truth in my faith, I am realizing, are basically new beliefs. Like maybe just a couple hundred years old. But Christianity is 2000 years old. Did all the Christians of the past have so much so wrong. With all our new, modern ideas, are we really getting to a purer form of the faith? All I see is confusion. Well meaning confusion.

3 Comments:

Blogger Thomas Ham said...

Yes, after Christ... "God's Chosen People" became His Church! There were't His "new Chosen People" and His "old Chosen People." The idea of a Rapture utilizes both old covenant and new covenant... It doesn't make '

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Blogger Louise said...

CHRISTIAN ZIONISM ISRAELI WARLIKE? (Yes, it is really warlike!)

Historian Dave MacPherson has uniquely uncovered the 19th century roots of militant Christian Zionism, a modern crusade supporting American politics and even military action to bring about the End.
The roots of this vengeful and power-mad campaign have been traced by MacPherson to a quarterly British journal known as "The Morning Watch" which, in its Sep., 1830 issue, had the first public teaching of the "pre-tribulation rapture" (the most popular feature of "dispensationalism").
In that same issue, one writer stated that the raptured Christians would then collectively become "the victorious ministerer of the great tribulation" upon those left behind!
An 1832 issue of the same journal taught that the "vials" of wrath in the book of Revelation "shall be poured out in the risen [raptured] saints," and a few months later another issue went even further and declared that the collective group of raptured ones will "wield the thunders of its power against the dragon [Satan] and his angels, and cast them down from heaven"!
But where in the Bible, asks MacPherson, did those British fanatics find support for such "rapture rage," and where are the followers of Christ commanded to pick up a sword and conquer or convert non-believers with it - or even support such sword-bearers?
The above is a tiny fraction of Dave MacPherson's 300-page book "The Rapture Plot," the most detailed and documented history of the "pre-tribulation rapture" view merchandised big time by John Hagee, Tim LaHaye, Jerry Falwell, Hal Lindsey, Jimmy Swaggart, Jack Van Impe etc. for their agendas - an escapist view that was never taught by any church before 1830!
MacPherson, BTW, has stated that all of his royalties have always gone to a nonprofit corporation and not to himself. To obtain a copy of his unique, eye-opening book, call 800.643.4645 or visit online bookstores. (Type in "Scholars Weigh My Research" on Google to read endorsements of it by many leading scholars.)
Do Hagee and his fellow preachers really love Jewish persons as much as they say they do? Then why do they pervert Scripture to try to get themselves raptured off earth before the final "tribulation" instead of wanting to be on earth then to minister love to ALL of earth's citizens?
Hagee stated on July 19, 2006 that "The United States must join Israel in a pre-emptive military strike against Iran to fulfill God's plan for both Israel and the West...." Which Bible verse inspired him to utter this - the one that says "Love ye your enemies" or the one saying "Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord"?
Are Hagee and Company trying to be part of the predicted group whose love will "wax cold" (a la Matthew 24:12) during earth's darkest days?
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3:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lauren, I am glad that you found me. We are catecumen right now at an OCA church. Are you guys also catecumen? My email is michelle@michellemccallum.com if you want to email me and talk about our experiences. I don't know too many other people right now who are going through what we are, and I would love to talk about it.

I'll add your link to my blogrol.

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